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Join friends Cesar, Rob, Chris and Victor as we dive head first into topics that might be mainstream but not common knowledge. No topic is too taboo for us to explore. Let's get curious together!
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Space Odyssey: The Unexpected Starliner Saga
Our latest episode launches us into space to cover the real-life drama of astronauts Butch and Suni, who find themselves stranded because of the Boeing Starliner. We'll introduce you to these incredible astronauts, unravel the technical snafus that have tested the operational readiness of future missions.
Suni Williams and Barry Eugene "Butch" Wilmore, have had remarkable careers and took on the daunting task to test the new and unproven Boeing Starliner. Though throughout the entirety of the flight the spaceship showed nothing but problems. They readied for their return but NASA felt the risk was to high to risk the astronauts lives and remained on the ISS to await a different ride home.
Finally, we turn up the fun with a trivia game about NASA's surprising inventions, debunking myths and highlighting contributions to everyday tech. Tune in for a captivating episode filled with humor and fun facts.
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So what's today's episode on? We'll be talking about two American heroes that are currently stuck in space.
Speaker 2:Five, four, three, two, one ignition and liftoff of Starliner and Atlas V, carrying two American heroes drawing a line to the stars for all of us.
Rob:So what was supposed to be an eight-day test flight has now turned into a media storm surrounding two americans. You've, guys, heard them? Butch and sunny, right, I've never heard their names.
Cesar:You've never heard their names, no wait till we talk about american heroes and sunny sounds like butch and sunny isn't that a tv show?
Victor:yeah, like a day, yeah, in the 70s is that a dog?
Rob:no, these people are amazing, and that was sun dance, butch, and sun dance yeah this is sunny. Currently, these two astronauts are stuck in space and it seems we don't have a clear plan for their return. This got me thinking what exactly is holding up these two? What are the problems that the new Starliner is facing, and is there a fix or a plan for their return? So today, the INDP crew will cover all of these questions and more. I'm not dumb, but Are Butch and Sonny really stuck in space?
Cesar:Welcome to the I'm Not Dumb but Podcast, where we won't claim to have the answers to life's deepest questions but we'll give you an exciting journey into the realms of knowledge you never knew you'd either. Might be mainstream, but not common knowledge. From artificial intelligence to conspiracy theories, no topic is too taboo for us to explore. Let's get curious together.
Rob:Welcome to the I'm Not Dumb, but Podcast. I'm your host for today, rob, joined by the man who counts getting in and out of his car as leg day, cesar Yo.
Cesar:Did him dirty Did him dirty.
Victor:Come on, he spends two hours on calves a day. A day.
Speaker 2:This is why your squat is so pathetic.
Rob:Our boy. Who can cook up a good episode? While baking a mean banana pudding, victor, how y'all doing. And, of course, who can forget our favorite diversity? Hire Chris Yo.
Victor:How y'all doing today. I'm not lost in space, I can tell you that. So that's good news.
Rob:Well, you know, I mean, this is what we want to talk about. So, you know, everybody loves a good rocket launch, but something about it's just something about the miracle of flight punching through the atmosphere that brings you to another world. It's just magical and dangerous at the same time. So what do you guys know about these two that are stuck in space?
Chris:Was this part of Elon Musk mission, like one of his spaceship?
Rob:No, so this is not Elon Musk.
Chris:So this wasn't Okay.
Rob:He will enter the story.
Cesar:This is a Boeing Starliner that they decided.
Victor:There we go. Is it the new Boeing Starliner Max?
Cesar:Yeah, it's a Boeing 747 Max 2.
Victor:With the updated MCAS system. Does it have an mcast system? Because I don't think I should think it should fix that.
Cesar:They took it out along with the engine. They put like a little thunderbolt on it and said oh this is brand new. Yeah, so this is, this is their, their baby that they're trying to, this program that they're trying to, um, they've been developing for a while now and it's had its shares of issues from the very beginning.
Victor:Well listen, space isn't easy. Okay, it's risky.
Rob:And it's scary and there's a reason why I'm on the ground.
Victor:Do you know, in space there's just nothing out there.
Cesar:There's love out there, though.
Victor:So you're wrong. Actually, love transcends space and time.
Rob:Thanks, Interstellar, it's like a black hole, we looked into using love to get them back have we called Matthew McConaughey? We should, and we should have gotten him on the flight to begin with, he would have came right back. Don't leave Murph.
Victor:Don't leave. All right, all right, all right.
Rob:No, I mean, these are yeah, these are two highly trained test pilots who are veterans. They've actually been to space twice before, so let's introduce our astronauts. So, for starters, the term astronaut I don't know if you guys knew, but actually it's Greek, it's derived from Greek and it actually means star sailor. So how many star sailors do you think we have in space right now? 15.
Chris:Chris 15.
Rob:Chris said 15.
Cesar:From the US.
Rob:All total in the International Space Station 20?, 9. I say 9. 9, 20, and 15. So currently there are 12 astronauts aboard the International Space Station, six Americans.
Cesar:USA number one.
Rob:Three Chinese and three Russians or cosmonauts. When I was doing a little research, it was interesting there's been over 766 people who have been into space Really.
Rob:That's a lot Different people, different people. They're saying that there's this boundary that is internationally defined, right, it's called the caravan line. It's a boundary that basically is it defines the edge of space, so where where earth's atmosphere ends and the outer space begins, and, um, this line is 62 miles, or over 100 kilometers, because we have a lot of, uh, international listeners now, um, but, uh, there's been only over 643 astronauts or people who have broken the caravan line, so that's a lot of people going to space I mean, I've never been on the edge of space, but I have been on the edge of glory how was that?
Victor:that was all right yeah, it was underwhelming um. If you pass that limit, do you get a stamp on your passport?
Rob:You should. Yeah, they don't have a TSA up there.
Victor:Can you stop and just be like can I get a stamp real quick?
Rob:Should I have been out here. Someone just stops, takes a picture and keeps going. You've been flagged, We've got to check, yeah, but they won't take you because astronauts need to be like I have global entry. You need that to get in.
Rob:They you need that to get in. They know me no, but there's a lot that involves to be an astronaut. I mean, like these two are, we'll just run through. Yeah, what's their creds? Yeah, these are the creds. Let's go over the creds, right? So Sunny or Sunita Lynn Williams was born in Euclid, ohio. She attended the US Naval Academy with a bachelor's in science in physical science. She has a bachelor's in science in physical science. She has a master's degree in engineering management. She was a naval aviator.
Speaker 6:That's right. A naval aviator.
Rob:She wanted jets but they gave her helicopters. Then she became a test pilot for the Rotary Wing Test Directorate and she flew Ospreys and tons of other things the T-2 aircraft, which is basically where people learn to fly jets. They fly the T-2, so it introduces people to jets. She retired with over 30 years in the Navy, has logged over 3,000 hours of flight time, has flown 30 different types of aircrafts and she started her astronaut training in 1998. So she's been in the game for forever.
Victor:Do you know how many astronauts are from Ohio?
Rob:No.
Victor:Like an odd amount of astronauts that come out of Ohio. Why do you think they want to leave the Earth?
Speaker 2:that badly.
Rob:They're like this place sucks so much I can't even go 62 miles east or west, I'm just going north.
Victor:Yeah, how many astronauts from Ohio? 25 astronauts, really.
Chris:That's crazy. Are from Ohio. That is a lot, that is.
Victor:Ohio astronauts have logged more than 22,000 hours in space Wow.
Cesar:That's crazy.
Rob:Wow, wow, damn, ohio sucks. Anyway, eric, back to the show. Yeah, so she's completed over seven spacewalks, putting her in the five all-time spacewalkers.
Cesar:Top five.
Rob:She's a former record holder for spacewalks by a woman and on April 16, 2007, she was the first woman to run a marathon in space.
Cesar:Now, how do you run a marathon in space?
Chris:I was going to say how.
Victor:On a treadmill Fucking? Obviously yeah, Come on bro.
Rob:Oh my God, Out of all the stuff we just went over. You can't, I know right, you don't think they have a treadmill in space.
Victor:That's the thing you can't believe.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Victor:She's the fifth highest. Buy a space walker and you're like, yeah, but can't you run a marathon?
Rob:That's what you have an issue with. I guess she signed up for the Boston Marathon and then ran it while everyone else was doing it and she was just like, oh, let's go do it in outer space. Yeah.
Victor:I mean, can we get her on the podcast? Though we can't, she's stuck in space. Well, when we bring her, back with love.
Rob:Yeah, she's getting right back on. I mean, we only get G's on this podcast. The last two were awesome, but yeah, I mean it's just like when you hear that, you're like what am I doing with myself? Do you know what I ate for dinner last night, I read this and I was like I had Kraft mac and cheese with hot dogs in it.
Rob:That's a homeowner, that's a homeowner. And then when I cut the hot dogs I did it. I read. This thing was like oh, try shears, because it's easier than a knife. Do you know how dehumanizing it feels to cut your own food with scissors?
Victor:it sounds like you're already halfway to be an astronaut because you're eating, fucking, yeah, space food. Might as well food, yeah, space food yeah.
Speaker 2:You okay.
Rob:Yeah, so Sunny, she's a veteran. Then you got Butch Barry Eugene Wilmore, aka Butch. Obviously he's from Murfreesboro, tennessee. He's got a bachelor's and master's in electrical engineering from Tennessee Tech. He's logged over 8,000 hours in aircraft with over 663 carrier landings in a tactical jet. He's been deployed on four combat missions, flew an A7 Corsair jet and the F-18 fighter pilot. He was a test pilot and he even helped develop the T-45 jet trainer and started astronaut training in 2000. So he's got over 24 years in the astronaut program. On top of that, he has numerous decorations and medals that I mean literally. There's a list of what he's won. And he was pilot of the year for the US Atlantic Fleet Strike Fighter, aviator of the Year. I mean, this guy is like he is Maverick.
Cesar:So Did you guys? There's like an astronaut that like has three different careers. He was like a chef, like an army vet, or oh, you know, he's a, he's a doctor, he's an astronaut.
Chris:The Asian guy. Yeah, the Asian guy.
Rob:That was Steven Seagal's last movie. I'm just a cook.
Cesar:What are we doing with our lives?
Rob:Yeah, I mean. When you mean, when you read these guys' careers, you're just like maybe I should look for a new job.
Victor:He did that because obviously his parents didn't love him enough, you know what, and he wouldn't have been a failure otherwise. Do you think that's what it was? I don't know.
Rob:I just think that some people are born with it. My mom loves me. My parents don't love me enough, so you got these smart people up there. What went wrong? You guys know.
Victor:Their spaceship broke.
Rob:Yeah, so there was a.
Victor:I mean you could be the best pilot in the world. But if you're playing, if you don't have a plane, you can't really do much yeah.
Rob:And then that's really what it is. So there was a helium leak. This was a test flight. This is what it was supposed to be, so they used test pilots to send this thing up, so the Starliner actually was first flown in 2019. This was the first time they were actually going to put people on it, so they wanted, like vets on there, to basically see, like all right, you know can we send this thing up.
Rob:Can Boeing use this In 2019,? When they sent it up shocker, boeing failed. There were some issues and the thing kind of flew off orbit, but they were successful in its return.
Victor:What do you mean? It flew off of orbit Like it just didn't go its scheduled path, or it was about to get launched into deep space.
Rob:No. So I guess what happened was there was like some sort of mission, elapsed time clock, the what let's take a look.
Speaker 6:The countdown ends at zero when the mission elapsed time, met is triggered, the timeline begins on which all the important events are entered, such as the ignition of various engines and many more. This makes sense because nobody knows exactly when liftoff will be possible. This way, critical dates do not have to be continuously converted. Based on the timestamps of the MET time series for all operational data of the spacecraft are also continuously recorded in order to be able to compare predicted and actual measured values.
Rob:But what this thing was that it kind of threw its trajectory into an incorrect orbit so it wasn't able to dock successfully with the ISS in 2019.
Victor:Is this the thing that's supposed to go to the moon?
Cesar:Yeah, they're going to start using this. Well, theoretically, they're going to start using this to start sending astronauts to the moon and eventually to Mars. This is Boeing's, you know, I think I read somewhere about maybe me using this as like a commercial vehicle as well later on in the future. So this was Boeing's way of saying OK, you know, let's, let's, let's get in this. But my understanding is this thing's had issues from the very beginning, like this isn't just out of nowhere and those helium tanks I think there were like seven of them and five of them were like broken, but they kind of fixed them, and then two of them were they couldn't fix but they ended up getting there to the space station.
Rob:so this shit was like this thing was a failure from the very beginning yeah, and, and from what I was reading, they said that there was actually helium leaks before the launch and they knew about it, but they didn't really think it was a big deal and it didn't pose a threat at the time. And the way it is is they, I guess, they use helium to basically push fuel and stuff in these lines and stuff in these lines. And they use helium also because it's non-toxic, non-inflammable and it's really small atoms, so it's able to find any holes or cracks or if any seals are broke, and then they can detect that helium. So this way they can find these leaks. So this is a common practice where they use helium. So they found some small leaks and they're like oh, it's probably not a big deal, we'll send it up anyway.
Rob:But I guess when this thing took off and as it was approaching the ISS, the International Space Station, some of the thrusters that it needed to basically line up with the International Space Station. So the International Space Station is traveling at 17,500 miles per hour, that's roughly five miles a second and as it's trying to dock, the thrusters go, all of them just start to fail. So now this thing is like hurling toward the ISS and they're trying to figure it out. So these test pilots, butch and Sonny, get on there, do whatever they got to do. They troubleshoot, they end up restarting the engines and they get the thrusters back online like pretty much last minute, and then successfully dock. And then they said that as they did it, not even all the thrusters came on. They got out of like they got like a majority of them on and were able to make it happen.
Rob:Thanks, bowling. Yeah, so they got it on there and that was their thing. This was a test flight. Let's see, you know, let's man this thing and see how it works. So now they're up there and they're trying to figure out. Well, can we come back with this thing? Can we fix it up here? We have two veterans with multiple spacewalks. How do we fix it?
Victor:Fix it. You got to take it to your local repair shop.
Rob:Yeah, you got to take it in. You got to take it in.
Cesar:Do they have Flex Seal? The Flex Seal, they just slap it on. It should probably work.
Rob:Honestly, that's a great idea.
Cesar:Think about it Flex Seal.
Speaker 2:Flex tape is no ordinary tape.
Victor:You got to plug one of those code readers in there right tape. You got to plug one of those code readers in there right for the check engine lights.
Cesar:Yeah.
Victor:And then it'll tell you what's wrong with the fucking thing.
Cesar:And then they'll break it, and then they'll tell you hey we suggest this we found this and if they go to a body shop.
Victor:It's going to cost, it's going to be. They're going to have to redo the whole thing.
Rob:I know you need an oil change, but we just broke your front axle. It's going to cost about $1,000.
Victor:That heat shield, that's got to go. That's got to go, you could probably buff it out.
Rob:So that's the thing. So they're trying to fix it.
Victor:Are they trying to fix it, or are they just going to send it back without the Now right Well this was the thing is they were.
Rob:They were trying to fix it so they can come back with the starliner yeah because there's tons of other space uh flights scheduled that are supposed to come up manned and it's basically, like you know, everything's timed, so they didn't want to interrupt all the other ones. Plus the iss um needs work, so they needed those guys up there. Plus they needed other astronauts to come up there, because when astronauts go to space they do tons of science experiments.
Victor:I thought they were just hanging out.
Rob:No, they go up there to do tons of science experiments. Plus, they're the experiment Because when they come back, they got to test their bodies and see how people react and they basically gather tons and tons and tons of data on everything and that's how they use it to make future spaceflight more successful. They run all this data and, in addition to that, they fix the ISS, because I didn't realize that their ISS is going to be out of service in like six years.
Victor:That's kind of crazy though. They say, they're just going to let it crash, crash so there's a, there's a spot in like the pacific ocean, where they send all the spacecraft to basically crash into the water, yeah, and it's like are you gonna put another one up there, like the they?
Rob:when I was reading about nasa's plan. I guess the plan going forward is they're going to transition out of that low orbit where the ISS is and they're just going to have that privatized. And then NASA, like Cesar was saying, is going to start working on longer range missions like the Mars and the Moon and all that.
Speaker 2:Write this down M-A-R-S Mars bitches.
Victor:So the International Space Station cost $150 billion to make and it cost $3 billion to run a year, hmm, that's like two Olympics.
Chris:Yeah.
Cesar:That's totally yeah.
Chris:Wait, but why 2030, though? Is there a? Is there a reason?
Rob:I think it's past its useful life, because I don't know how long has it been up there?
Victor:for it was launched in 1998, so it's like 30 years yeah, you wouldn't keep a car fast. What? Who made it?
Chris:toyota, yeah how long would you?
Victor:keep a car. You're gonna keep a fucking space station running that long. You know how many miles that fucking space station has. Yeah, but it just floats.
Rob:So I mean, come on, it's, it's motor miles, doesn't count how miles per hour, we'll just do the math here. Somebody, get this guy a job. And now what are you doing on the podcast?
Victor:this got, it's got some miles on it it's four 4.1 billion miles if fucking honda made it. It's a baby.
Rob:It needs some oil changes and that's what the astronauts are doing oh, there's a.
Victor:There's a number right here. It just says 25 years in orbit, nine months, 16 days use that.
Speaker 2:I could just fucking use that what are you just freaking?
Victor:use that.
Speaker 2:What are you? An idiot sandwich.
Rob:That's where we're at. So we got the two astronauts up there and now we got to try to figure out how to fix it. So some of the ideas initially, I think, were to fix the leaks, patch them up, but the problem is you can't use certain things up there. So they got to figure out what they can use. They might have to see what's on board. They might have to see what's on board. They might have to mix adhesives or try to basically make like what you were saying make these patches and go and do these super, super risky spacewalks and try to fix the ISS or fix the Starliner from the outside, on top of doing everything else that they have to do.
Victor:Who's responsible for fixing it? Is Boeing responsible or is it like? I think it's is there a warranty on this thing?
Rob:yeah, they're pulling up the service contract.
Cesar:They're like come on bro it wasn't covered for helium leaks. It was covered for everything else, though, but not helium.
Rob:Yes yeah, it's power train only chevrolet guarantees you that with a warranty? Um, my understanding is that nasa and boeing scientists are both working on it to try to come up with uh, ideas on how to fix it so there's like a, there's like a group the crazy thing about it.
Cesar:Yeah, they've been up there for months, right? So they're coming back down next year, right yeah?
Chris:that's what they said, yeah, so right now.
Rob:we're gonna get to that. But yeah, they're there. It looks like they're extending their stay until February of next year. So the idea was the initial plan was to bring them back on the Starliner, and Boeing is seriously, seriously pushing for them to come back on the Starliner. They've gone through all their quote unquote data and they're saying that there's low risk. They believe they have full confidence that it will come back. Nasa straight up said we have zero confidence in the Starliner and we're not putting people on it. It's interesting NASA actually runs off of something called the loss of crew metric. So after they pull all the data data, it has to be a one in 270 chance that they will lose the crew so there's a one in 207 chance that they might die and they're like, that's fine yeah, well, space is risky, so they, they have to come up with, uh, some sort of metric and some sort of percent.
Victor:I mean that's like like one in a thousand, I mean I think that'd percentage, I mean that's like one in a thousand, I mean I think that'd be cool.
Cesar:I mean, that's really good.
Rob:Like every 200 and something launches, but that's why they do the test flights. This is all part of it. This wasn't like just one of those things where you know.
Victor:I feel like there's that number of days since last incident, like launches since last incident, and once it hits 207, they're all looking at each other like well, I'm not going up on this one.
Rob:I'm not going up there.
Chris:I don't trust it.
Rob:So, yeah, they work off that metric and you know, they have the past disasters. You know and they don't want to, they don't want to relive that.
Cesar:And Boeing, from their track record, doesn't really care. They'll push a product on you even knowing that.
Rob:Yeah, they said that they've been saying, and from what I'm reading, that there's been a lot of pressure from Boeing on NASA to bring them back on the Starliner.
Cesar:It's a black eye on Boeing. Yeah, a huge one. So now NASA's like reading right through the bullshit.
Victor:Like you guys said the same thing about other things and this is it's kind of like we talked about it a couple of pods ago where Boeing is just like it's about the money, nothing else.
Speaker 6:It's like some coked up salesman.
Victor:That's just like. No, this thing runs beautifully. It's going to get your astronauts that are up and back.
Speaker 6:They're not even going to feel a thing Woo thing, are we still doing this? I gotta do it home I.
Victor:I drive this thing all the time. I go to space every day.
Chris:I'm in space right now I'm in space right now never let me down I mean it sounds like from the beginning was the red like bunch of red flags here and there?
Victor:have you ever like looked into original NASA when they were trying to go to the moon and shit? They would just patch things up as they went.
Cesar:Which is understandable, right? I feel like this is different. Just because of the track record that Boeing seems to be on and NASA, we're losing funding. We got these two astronauts up there. This has issues from the very beginning. If we put these guys and they die. Are people?
Rob:going to blame Boeing or NASA?
Cesar:Exactly they're probably going to blame NASA.
Rob:Yeah, Well, the thing too is now is that before, nasa never really had a plan B. So now that you got SpaceX and you got a bunch of other companies able to go up there, they have other options and if they feel that those options are safer, that's exactly. They're going to send the Starliner back uncrewed, right, because these things are automatic. They're going to send that back and they're going to sit and wait and see who was right. Essentially is what's going to happen, right? They're going to see could we have sent them back or not?
Cesar:Hopefully everything is good.
Rob:If that thing blows up Exactly, and that's what they're doing.
Victor:It's not. Even if it blows up, it's going to come back, but the internal temperature was like a thousand degrees at one point. You're just like it's just a little heat.
Chris:It's that same salesman, the Coke salesman comes in.
Speaker 2:It was just a little heat.
Victor:Everyone loves a little heat. It's summertime.
Rob:Am.
Victor:I right, hans Bobby.
Rob:Yeah. So they're going to bring the Starliner back uncrewed, and what happens is they're going to use SpaceX. So our boy, elon, is going to come in and single-handedly save the day.
Chris:That's where Elon comes in.
Rob:So yeah, I mean Boeing and SpaceX were both awarded billion-dollar contracts by NASA to provide this commercial space flights for astronauts. So Boeing was given about $4.2 billion in funding and SpaceX was given around $2.6 billion. Spacex so far has sent nine crewed flights to space for NASA, as well as some commercial missions, but this is Boeing's first attempt at a crewed mission and it's just not going well for them.
Victor:Wait a minute. So SpaceX was given less money and they were already sending people up back and forth.
Rob:Nine crews, nine crews and they have another one scheduled.
Victor:Exactly, these guys were given double and then they still have yet to deliver.
Rob:Mm-hmm, it was doing the contract and this was supposed to be their flagship, first on flight, and it just hasn't been good, just hasn't been good.
Chris:Wasn't Boeing always the sole winner of the spaceship?
Rob:Yeah, they were like the ones.
Victor:It's a combination, it's not just Boeing. Oh okay, the manufacturers of the Starliner is Boeing, and then Bigelow Aerospace. The tea company. That's what I was going to say yeah, you got to diversify. The tea business has been booming. They're burning green tea. Well, the tea business has been around exploration for, like you know, since the early ages of exploration. So it only makes sense that they just go to space to look for indigenous people to take advantage of hmm, very nice.
Rob:So that's what we're waiting for. So in february, spacex crew dragon spacecraft I was supposed to have four people on it and what boat, what uh, nasa is going to do and what spacex is going to do? They're only going to send two. And then, when they come back, uh, butch and sunny is going to do and what SpaceX is going to do? They're only going to send two. And then, when they come back, butch and Sonny are going to return on the SpaceX Dragon spacecraft. And that's the plan right now on how we're going to bring them back.
Victor:So how long will they have been spent in space in total?
Cesar:Probably two years it would take right.
Rob:They went up in June and they years. It would take right.
Chris:They went up in June. So Jelani and they're coming back next year right Eight months.
Rob:Oh, I don't think that's even close to the record. No, no, no, people have been up there for longer.
Chris:So when they go back, that's considered as a rescue mission, or is that something? Are they?
Rob:calling it something different because it was. It was a scheduled flight and they're just going to return on that. You know, it's like when delta is like hey, uh, we ever booked this flight and, uh, you want to take the next one you got to hold out for the good number, because they're going to be like they're going to first offer you at first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're going to lowball you, so you gotta wait for the you gotta wait till they break like eight hundred dollars yeah, thousands is usually a good number, but you've got to get up there quick.
Victor:So a Russian cosmonaut has the record he spent 878 days in space. Wow, To be fair, though, he probably just didn't want to go home. Russia's kind of depressing.
Chris:Is this Russia? This isn't Russia.
Rob:All right, on that note, we're going to bring our boys back, but before we do, let's play a game. So we're going to play two rounds and it's going to be guess what NASA has not created. I'm going to give you five things. You're going to play two rounds and it's going to be guess what NASA has not created. I'm going to give you five things. You're going to have to spot the ones that NASA did not create, inventions that they did not create. The winner of the game gets to stay on the podcast and choose one other person to continue to be on the podcast. So sorry, chris.
Chris:This is my last podcast. Yeah, sorry about that. That's how.
Victor:I get.
Rob:We just thought we'd send you off. All right, you guys ready. Number one scratch-resistant lenses, spandex, the MRI machine, the computer mouse, athletic shoes, two out of the five that they did not create. That did not create, it was not a nasa invention.
Victor:All right, I'm gonna say the computer mouse.
Rob:Okay, the mri machine okay, so yours is computer mouse and mri machine caesar you know, that's exactly what I had written down.
Cesar:But you know what I'm to go with the computer mouse. They didn't create the athletic shoes.
Rob:They did not create. Okay, I'm going to go with the athletic shoes for Caesar, all right.
Chris:Christopher, I'll say the sneakers right.
Cesar:Athletic shoes. Chris, I just said it, Chris, I know right the computer mouse.
Victor:I'm going last, I'm going last.
Chris:I'm going last. I know I have to get this right, and they all sound pretty reasonable, though, do they? Though? I mean, like for Scratch, was it Resistance Lens? It sounds reasonable, right, because they're out in space.
Victor:Maybe they get hit by the rocks or whatnot, so they want to make sure, I think, if a rock hits you.
Chris:You're dead. Yeah, you're dead.
Victor:Good thing I had the scratch resistance Because of the meteor that went by.
Chris:I'll say a find, then a spandex, and so you're saying a spandex Right and athletic shoes, all right.
Rob:Nasa has not created in their invention spandex and the MRI machine, son of a bitch. Created a computer mouse.
Cesar:They created a computer mouse.
Rob:Scratch-resistant lenses was part of their creation, and athletic shoes.
Chris:I thought it was just Japanese Tiger created the sneakers.
Victor:No no from like 1800s.
Rob:That sounds like a racist joke.
Speaker 2:We, I think we all got one right, all tied, so so chris lost that one, all right, so tiebreaker tiebreaker, you guys ready yeah?
Rob:tiebreaker. Here we go. This is for all the marbles. Here's the new list. You guys ready landmine removal, the jaws of life, teflon, velcro, baby formula. Which two out of these five was not an innovation from nasa?
Chris:chris velcro and baby formula okay, oh, good choices, caesar this was tough.
Cesar:Uh, I guess I'll go with the landmines removal and the uh baby formula.
Victor:I don't know okay I'm gonna throw a uh hail mary into this one. I'm Landmine removal and Teflon Ooh.
Chris:Teflon, hmm.
Rob:Okay, okay, all right, you guys ready.
Chris:Never mind, I'm not going to say anything. Go, go ahead.
Speaker 6:Okay, you ready, I have a history lesson for you about
Speaker 2:landmine removal.
Victor:My name is Chris. I am an expert on landmine removals and I can tell you right now that NASA created it. It's not even what it sounds like Fucking asshole.
Speaker 2:I hate you so much.
Rob:For all the marbles, Teflon and Velcro.
Victor:What Sorry, Chris, you lost.
Rob:Crazy Teflon and Velcro.
Cesar:I could have sworn they did both of those things.
Victor:Yeah, I could have sworn, they created Velcro.
Rob:No, they use it, but they did not create it, so it looks like Victor. Well, actually, let's be honest, we can't get rid of Victor, because, I mean, he does everything for us. So, victor, you can send out in our next email who you're choosing to keep.
Victor:I got one right, and I got one right too, and Caesar got one right right.
Rob:Caesar got one right right. Caesar got them both wrong. He said landmine and baby formula and that was. You're completely wrong.
Victor:You're an idiot. What an idiot. You are, yeah, so stupid. What an idiot. Why don't you go work for Boeing, maybe?
Cesar:you can design the next MCAS system. I can get you up there, can't get you back down.
Victor:All right. So what are our key takeaways? What do you guys think victor? Space is kind of crazy. I hope they get their shit together. Um, I think the astronauts will come back.
Chris:Fine, as long as they don't come back in that starliner coffin chris, hopefully it was a sunny and butch and share butch welcome. Well, hopefully they'll come back safely, but I could. This is like blockbuster over hollywood over already. Yeah, within like a couple years. This sounds like a shitty fucking movie. That's how they can. That's how they get money how is that?
Victor:how is that a good movie? Hey, we went up there. Hey, the ship's broken. Okay, send it back by itself, all right what regardless? That's like apollo 13, but without any of the suspense. Hey, a shift. Yeah, okay, we'll just wait for the next ride. Okay, cool, tom hanks is gonna be really riveting in that one.
Chris:It's gonna be nasa and boeing fighting. That's the word.
Victor:Drama is oh great it'd be an aaron sorkin fucking film, just like two lawyers talking the whole time shows then Elon.
Chris:Musk shows up in the middle of it, and then he's the hero of the whole movie.
Rob:I mean he's saving the world right now.
Chris:Hyperloop changed the game but no, it is crazy like how, just like helium leak, like something like that could cost or change everything with the whole.
Cesar:You know, like I said, hopefully they come back home safely they think about like just sucking it in and just like high-pitched voice, that shit, because that could be, that could be.
Victor:This is major time to ground control. I'm floating through the air the whole time. And.
Cesar:I've sucked a lot of helium today, caesar. I thought this article was interesting when I first came across it, like these two astronauts stuck up there and the crazy thing about it, because of Boeing. Boeing's track record recently has been awful and which is one of the reasons why I was kind of interested. You know they should come back down in one piece with Elon Musk's SpaceX, right, and that's just another win for him. And eventually you know that company is going to keep going, get better and better, and you know they're going to just take over the game and Boeing once again shoot themselves in the foot. It's on them.
Rob:All right, we hope you enjoyed the show and we thank you for listening. Please follow us on Twitter at I'm Not Dumb, but to stay updated on what we got going on, and we encourage you to be an active member of our community. We love hearing from our listeners, whether you have questions, suggestions or just want to share your thoughts on topics we cover. We want to hear from you. Until next time, stay curious.
Chris:Bye, bye.
Speaker 2:The Starliner spacecraft had a perfect landing at New Mexico's White Sands Space Harbor. This is exactly what NASA had hoped would happen, but was apparently not convinced, and that is why Starliner left its crew 260 miles above central China.
